I just got sick of there always being a new “controversy” with him and his inability to seem like he gives a shit about it. Each time he gets accused of something, whether he did it or not, he just goes on the WAN show to sigh as big as possible and say “Guys…”
I mean it’s fair to avoid “drama” no matter who stirs it, but most of their controversies were fairly well handled and largely overblown.
I think my biggest issue was the whole “trust me bro” “warranty”, but that was mostly a cultural clash and Linus still had some good points even originally when he talked about it, even if the way he did so was extremely tone deaf.
The tone deafness is it, you’ve put it better words that I could. It doesn’t matter to me whether he was right or wrong about it, he still manages to come across as abrasive at best or smug and shitty at worst. Like, let Luke talk about it instead or something.
The thing is, he does that fairly rarely, and seems to have mostly learned (to at least keep his mouth shut).
And TBF I don’t think he could build a company like that without a bit of cockyness, and he certainly does deserve recognition for what he achieved.
The vast majority of stuff they do - even if it’s a fuckup - they actually handle well and make everyone whole. In away they’re sometimes forced a bit by circumstances but in general I feel like they’re genuinely trying to do their best and be fair.
First it’s not investigative journalism, it’s hardware reviews that may or may not reveal problems, and he fakes and cheat with his, and takes money illegally under the table for making good reviews.
Difference between him and for instance Gamers Nexus, is that Gamers Nexus reveals if he detects something is off when he tests. While LTT prefer to get companies to pay for good reviews that gloss over the problems.
People are idiots if they believe your claim is true, and apparently most do?!
Um, can you give some examples (with proof) of where LTT got paid to give a good review?
That’s an extreme accusation, and everything I’ve watched for the past decade+ seems to contradict that.
For obvious reasons that’s something they want to avoid. Hell they’re still happy to get on the bad side of companies for integrity, they’re just way less aggressive and outspoken about it compared to GN.
In fact I feel like GN sometimes overplays it a bit.
Yes, and I can make it without fear of him suing me, because it’s true.
It was pretty obvious if you have more than 2 brain cells and the ability of critical thinking.
But Gamers Nexus actually gave examples of obvious “conflicts of interests”: https://youtu.be/FGW3TPytTjc?t=1575
This is actually from way after I stopped viewing LTT trash, but I can’t just go back multiple years and dig up the evidence.
But if you really are curious, you would have to track his “sponsors” and compare them to his “reviews”. And the evidence will quickly be pretty clear.
For instance it was very obvious that after AMD became a major sponsor around 2018, Radeon suddenly got way better reviews.
Raja had tried to suck up to him, and give him special treatment and privileges of first access with the Vega release, which didn’t work the slightest. But when they became a sponsor THAT WORKED!
And when Intel stopped their sponsoring of him, he suddenly made several features complaining about how bad Intel was. This was at least true, it’s just funny how the criticism didn’t come out until they stopped paying him.
Intel stopped supporting YouTube reviewers in general, but other channels did not suddenly switch how they reviewed Intel.
LTT is corrupt as hell, to the point he may use his popularity for extortion. He probably doesn’t think so himself, because he seemingly doesn’t have the intelligence to see that what he is doing is wrong, unless it is pointed out to him very clearly.
But if you don’t have eyes to see what’s going on, I really can’t help you.
I just want to point out that you gave no proof and admitted that Intel sucks. Also I don’t need to see any sponsored videos to know AMD has gotten better.
WTF! I gave a timed link to Gamers Nexus CLEARLY demonstrating LTT posting videos with similar conflict of interest.
And I gave examples of how payment as “sponsor” which was the method he mostly used, omitting the sponsor part in his reviews, gave exactly the result I claimed. And even that the opposite was also the case for the non payment.
I also demonstrated the fact that such claims can be made without risk is also evidence of the truth of the claim.
HOW the fuck can you say I gave no proof? You appear to refuse to see the truth, or have a complete lack of understanding of what evidence is.
Again, you didn’t provide any examples where LTT got paid to give a good review.
They’re in the tech industry, they’re going to have conflicts of interest if they diversify their investments. And Gamer Nexus didn’t do as deep of a dive on those as you think.
LTT and gamers nexus face similar but not exactly the same pressures. Gamers nexus is able to be more aggressive than Linus is but Linus structured his business in such a way that made it vulnerable to such a things.
The clearest example of this was when the Intel overvolting bug was being hidden by Intel PR spin and GN noticed a pattern, said fuck all that noise, and raised hell over it. GN was right. Intel was wrong. And GN was rewarded for it. Linus has to keep sponsors happy whereas GN regularly throws punches with industry titans like NVIDIA.
The risk is higher but so is the reward. People trust GN specifically because of that reputation. Linus is fun, his channel is interesting, but he’s squarely in the influencer/entertainment category.
Meaning that for Linus you are the product, and the advertisers are the real customers.
Again meaning the videos are not made for you, they are made for the advertisers.
Oh I almost forgot about him, I blocked his channels years ago. He is an idiot and a shill, and did illegal hidden advertising.
Why anyone would still watch his channels is very strange IMO.
Yes, he would make a paid advertisement camouflaged as a review and never disclose that it was in fact not a review but an advertisement.
He had even set up a scheme to hide the fact, and make it look like the payments were for something else, like consulting.
The guy is absolute scum, and the success of his channel is based on illegal practices.
That is not the reality as I see it. They don’t hide the fact that it’s a sponsored video (marked as “sponsored video”) until the end of the video. They seems mindful to always disclose conflict of interest (everytime framework, the NAS company) and they stopped working with Anker publically and immediately when the eufy camera scandal broke. They seem to hold them selves to a high ethical standard and disclose information even though it paints them in a negative light (they admitted they knew honey was swapping advertiser links but they didn’t make it a big story)
Source: I watch around 2-3 LTT videos per week and around 50% of the WAN show podcast
I used to watch less because I couldn’t bring myself to click on the god-awful distasteful thumbnails but then I installed “dearrow” and sponsorblock and they are more than tolerable.
OMG the honey fiasco was such an incredible explosion to watch. I never trusted it. I knew it was shady. But I never actually studied it. Just dismissed it as ridiculous shit being shipped everywhere and avoided it. Then the truth came out, LTT and many other got caught with their pants down and looked really bad, and I felt my distrust validated.
Yeah I thought there is no way it can work effectively and never tried it. I was wondering how they could afford so much advertising. I just expected to be bankrupt. I bet others thought that too. That the shadyness was only about investors.
He only changed practices to be more transparent because he was called out with clear evidence.
I bet he still breaks the rules if it fits his purpose, but since I haven’t watched his dishonest channels for years, I cannot really say. But once a fraudster always a fraudster, that’s my experience.
No it’s not, it’s clearly illegal even in USA. Gamers Nexus never did anything like that, or Hardware Unboxed. Those are channels that are renowned for their integrity. Although Hardware unboxed is Australian they are addressing the same market. Except for not being a goofy joke like LTT.
Youre forgetting that time they did a scrapyard war which was sponsered by dbrand, in which somebody was constantly in view, playing on a switch with a dbrand skin.
Product placement has always been a thing. I once saw some show on tv where there was a hospital with shiny Apple computers in every scene and I laughed my ass off at how tonedeaf that was.
It’s kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I like it in the background sometimes. It’s like watching code blue cam. Cops are occasionally useful bullies but I don’t watch it for the cops. I watch it for the white trash judge judy bullshit. It’s a methed out freak show sometimes. It’s spectacle.
I really respect Gamers Nexus for actually doing the shit Linus Tech Tips just haws and haws over.
I don’t think LTT ever did or claimed to do investigative journalism (or really journalism at all)?
They make entertainment videos that sometimes have mildly informative value.
I just got sick of there always being a new “controversy” with him and his inability to seem like he gives a shit about it. Each time he gets accused of something, whether he did it or not, he just goes on the WAN show to sigh as big as possible and say “Guys…”
I mean it’s fair to avoid “drama” no matter who stirs it, but most of their controversies were fairly well handled and largely overblown.
I think my biggest issue was the whole “trust me bro” “warranty”, but that was mostly a cultural clash and Linus still had some good points even originally when he talked about it, even if the way he did so was extremely tone deaf.
The tone deafness is it, you’ve put it better words that I could. It doesn’t matter to me whether he was right or wrong about it, he still manages to come across as abrasive at best or smug and shitty at worst. Like, let Luke talk about it instead or something.
The thing is, he does that fairly rarely, and seems to have mostly learned (to at least keep his mouth shut).
And TBF I don’t think he could build a company like that without a bit of cockyness, and he certainly does deserve recognition for what he achieved.
The vast majority of stuff they do - even if it’s a fuckup - they actually handle well and make everyone whole. In away they’re sometimes forced a bit by circumstances but in general I feel like they’re genuinely trying to do their best and be fair.
But thats how it’s presented, and that’s how many viewers interpet it.
Again, what? Where? Their most informative videos do reviews and testing, which is regular journalism at best.
I can remember maybe one or two videos that were somewhat investigative.
It’s just not what they do or what they claim to do.
First it’s not investigative journalism, it’s hardware reviews that may or may not reveal problems, and he fakes and cheat with his, and takes money illegally under the table for making good reviews.
Difference between him and for instance Gamers Nexus, is that Gamers Nexus reveals if he detects something is off when he tests. While LTT prefer to get companies to pay for good reviews that gloss over the problems.
People are idiots if they believe your claim is true, and apparently most do?!
Um, can you give some examples (with proof) of where LTT got paid to give a good review?
That’s an extreme accusation, and everything I’ve watched for the past decade+ seems to contradict that.
For obvious reasons that’s something they want to avoid. Hell they’re still happy to get on the bad side of companies for integrity, they’re just way less aggressive and outspoken about it compared to GN.
In fact I feel like GN sometimes overplays it a bit.
Yes, and I can make it without fear of him suing me, because it’s true.
It was pretty obvious if you have more than 2 brain cells and the ability of critical thinking.
But Gamers Nexus actually gave examples of obvious “conflicts of interests”:
https://youtu.be/FGW3TPytTjc?t=1575
This is actually from way after I stopped viewing LTT trash, but I can’t just go back multiple years and dig up the evidence.
But if you really are curious, you would have to track his “sponsors” and compare them to his “reviews”. And the evidence will quickly be pretty clear.
For instance it was very obvious that after AMD became a major sponsor around 2018, Radeon suddenly got way better reviews.
Raja had tried to suck up to him, and give him special treatment and privileges of first access with the Vega release, which didn’t work the slightest. But when they became a sponsor THAT WORKED!
And when Intel stopped their sponsoring of him, he suddenly made several features complaining about how bad Intel was. This was at least true, it’s just funny how the criticism didn’t come out until they stopped paying him.
Intel stopped supporting YouTube reviewers in general, but other channels did not suddenly switch how they reviewed Intel.
LTT is corrupt as hell, to the point he may use his popularity for extortion. He probably doesn’t think so himself, because he seemingly doesn’t have the intelligence to see that what he is doing is wrong, unless it is pointed out to him very clearly.
But if you don’t have eyes to see what’s going on, I really can’t help you.
I just want to point out that you gave no proof and admitted that Intel sucks. Also I don’t need to see any sponsored videos to know AMD has gotten better.
WTF! I gave a timed link to Gamers Nexus CLEARLY demonstrating LTT posting videos with similar conflict of interest.
And I gave examples of how payment as “sponsor” which was the method he mostly used, omitting the sponsor part in his reviews, gave exactly the result I claimed. And even that the opposite was also the case for the non payment.
I also demonstrated the fact that such claims can be made without risk is also evidence of the truth of the claim.
HOW the fuck can you say I gave no proof? You appear to refuse to see the truth, or have a complete lack of understanding of what evidence is.
Again, you didn’t provide any examples where LTT got paid to give a good review.
They’re in the tech industry, they’re going to have conflicts of interest if they diversify their investments. And Gamer Nexus didn’t do as deep of a dive on those as you think.
LTT and gamers nexus face similar but not exactly the same pressures. Gamers nexus is able to be more aggressive than Linus is but Linus structured his business in such a way that made it vulnerable to such a things.
The clearest example of this was when the Intel overvolting bug was being hidden by Intel PR spin and GN noticed a pattern, said fuck all that noise, and raised hell over it. GN was right. Intel was wrong. And GN was rewarded for it. Linus has to keep sponsors happy whereas GN regularly throws punches with industry titans like NVIDIA.
The risk is higher but so is the reward. People trust GN specifically because of that reputation. Linus is fun, his channel is interesting, but he’s squarely in the influencer/entertainment category.
Meaning that for Linus you are the product, and the advertisers are the real customers.
Again meaning the videos are not made for you, they are made for the advertisers.
LTT doesnt make deep investigative hours-long videos anyway
Oh I almost forgot about him, I blocked his channels years ago. He is an idiot and a shill, and did illegal hidden advertising.
Why anyone would still watch his channels is very strange IMO.
Illegal hidden advertising?
Yes, he would make a paid advertisement camouflaged as a review and never disclose that it was in fact not a review but an advertisement.
He had even set up a scheme to hide the fact, and make it look like the payments were for something else, like consulting.
The guy is absolute scum, and the success of his channel is based on illegal practices.
That is not the reality as I see it. They don’t hide the fact that it’s a sponsored video (marked as “sponsored video”) until the end of the video. They seems mindful to always disclose conflict of interest (everytime framework, the NAS company) and they stopped working with Anker publically and immediately when the eufy camera scandal broke. They seem to hold them selves to a high ethical standard and disclose information even though it paints them in a negative light (they admitted they knew honey was swapping advertiser links but they didn’t make it a big story)
Source: I watch around 2-3 LTT videos per week and around 50% of the WAN show podcast
I used to watch less because I couldn’t bring myself to click on the god-awful distasteful thumbnails but then I installed “dearrow” and sponsorblock and they are more than tolerable.
OMG the honey fiasco was such an incredible explosion to watch. I never trusted it. I knew it was shady. But I never actually studied it. Just dismissed it as ridiculous shit being shipped everywhere and avoided it. Then the truth came out, LTT and many other got caught with their pants down and looked really bad, and I felt my distrust validated.
So satisfying.
Yeah I thought there is no way it can work effectively and never tried it. I was wondering how they could afford so much advertising. I just expected to be bankrupt. I bet others thought that too. That the shadyness was only about investors.
He only changed practices to be more transparent because he was called out with clear evidence.
I bet he still breaks the rules if it fits his purpose, but since I haven’t watched his dishonest channels for years, I cannot really say. But once a fraudster always a fraudster, that’s my experience.
Not that it makes it any better, but that just seems like typical business practices. Almost everything we watch in America is an advertisement.
No it’s not, it’s clearly illegal even in USA. Gamers Nexus never did anything like that, or Hardware Unboxed. Those are channels that are renowned for their integrity. Although Hardware unboxed is Australian they are addressing the same market. Except for not being a goofy joke like LTT.
Youre forgetting that time they did a scrapyard war which was sponsered by dbrand, in which somebody was constantly in view, playing on a switch with a dbrand skin.
Product placement has always been a thing. I once saw some show on tv where there was a hospital with shiny Apple computers in every scene and I laughed my ass off at how tonedeaf that was.
It’s kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I like it in the background sometimes. It’s like watching code blue cam. Cops are occasionally useful bullies but I don’t watch it for the cops. I watch it for the white trash judge judy bullshit. It’s a methed out freak show sometimes. It’s spectacle.