Please don’t upgrade to Linux so I can buy those outdated servers…
I’m so glad I switched to Linux when I did (a couple months ago). I was dual booting for a bit but two weeks ago I removed my windows partition. Feels good to be free.
The only time I’ve booted into Windows in the last month is for the Battlefield beta and my work’s annoying proprietary VPN. Other than that I’d say Linux is finally ready for the desktop. Proton was the straw that broke Microsoft’s back for me.
What OS do you recommend for desktop Linux. I’m mostly into protecting my data.
What distro, and how do you like it compared to windows so far? (And I’m assuming you’re not using Arch since you didn’t say anything)
I distro hopped a bit but landed on CachyOS, which is arch-based (btw) but a lot more straightforward to install and has a faster kernel supposedly. It’s been fantastic, I much prefer it to windows. Still getting used to the occasional hiccup but it’s worth it. I was never too attached to windows anyway. I’m currently running KDE Plasma but I want to try out Hyprland or something similar. It seems really cool. I have to look into how to download it though.
Nice! CachyOS and Nix are on my bucket list but I’m content with fedora atm. Used to run the CachyOS kernel on fedora before though. I think it’s an interesting choice to enable LTO for the entire kernel, and the performance was top notch! Too bad it broke my kernel headers package which broke the nvidia drivers so I had to cut my losses and purge everything back then.
Everyone I’ve read that’s used Fedora has liked it. I’d consider it on a secondary machine or something maybe.
Cachy has been awesome, I’d recommend it if you decide to change distros in the future. I’m enjoying Arch as a base more than Ubuntu for sure. I haven’t tried anything based on Fedora though other than Bazzite which is immutable, so I’m not sure if that really counts.
Nix seems cool but its big selling point that I’ve read is easy reproduction which I don’t think I’d utilize much. I might be missing something, but Arch seems more for me personally.
I switched to Linux when i built my first tower in 2022
And have never looked back
I’d love to build my own pc, maybe in a few years. I’m currently using a gaming laptop which is good enough for most games, but when I feel the need to upgrade I’m gonna build.
I got a survey question from windows feedbackhub on my work computer yesterday, asking if i would recommend windows. And i thought fine ill answer this seriously with real reasons why.
I wrote a long explanation from my own experiences helping people and using it, half way through i shit you not, the feedbackhub froze and crashed.
I just put “[Object object]” in one of the survey fields when I don’t like the company.
Calm down, Satan.
You have learned the lesson. The lesson to Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C (select all and copy) your text into a separate document elsewhere before hitting send. In fact you should be doing that periodically anyway because browsers and browser-based apps are more likely than they should be to stop working unexpectedly.
And if the form disallows this action you’ll have to get creative with the browser tools to modify the page that way instead.
You can install a clipboard manager tool like CopyQ or just enable the one built into windows and use that as temp storage for your text
It probably detected a certain number of flagged words or phrases and knew it was gonna be really negative feedback and “crashed”
It wasn’t even that negative.
Would you recommend windows to family and friends?
No, 90% of those i help (ages 10-70) with computers and tech dont need a computer, they can use their phone for everything. A phone can pay bills, contact friends and family even print documents or pictures just fine and they have everything they need and want.
The only reason someone even wants a PC today is to play games or they need it for work and in those cases i usually don’t need to recommend them an os because they probably don’t have any other options, because they are comfortable windows or mac.
I don’t usually leave feedback. I have done it maybe six times when I’ve been really pissed. In two of those times I’ve gotten “server error” or similar after writing a long rant and pressing “send”
Seems to be a really important and respected part of any service.
Jesus fucking Christ, is Windows just 100% vibe coded now? How do those fuckups keep happening? It’s honestly unbelievable…
I’m so glad I decided to move away from it - I still have no idea what I’m doing in Linux, but then again I never had a lot of idea about what I’m doing in Windows either, so it’s all good :)
You might not yet always know what you’re doing to your Linux install…
But you can never really what the fuck Microsoft is gonna do to your windows install.That’s without even getting into whether or not Microsoft knows what they’re doing themselves.
Amen to that.
I settled on Manjaro for now because it’s super nice and easy to use - I heard it had some issues with updates on the past, but for the last year or so it’s been really nice for me, so I’ll wait until the first screwup before distro-hopping somewhere else :)
They know that they know nothing. They do what they must and let be what comes. An enlightened monopolist corporation.
As the article mentions, it’s because Microsoft cut down their quality control to the point where they’re just sending stuff out then reacting when people report what breaks. Sure they have their “insider” builds but that program isn’t working very well to catch these issues that find their way into release builds.
Back in the day they had a massive testing lab and a big team of testers. Then they fired them all just over a decade ago. We can thank Satya Nadella I guess. He’s more of a line-go-up man than a good quality products person.
It’s completely insane to me that businesses deal with it without suing their butts off. I can understand individual customers, they tend to be docile, but how did all this not cause massive losses to a litigious company yet?
Enterprise lags behind Home and Pro. Consumers are QA for Enterprise.
One lesson they took for RedHat, is it not?
The fact of the matter is almost nobody really deals with these issues. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but their definatley blown out of proportion by the LINUX OR DIE echo chamber that forgets people have to use their work equipment or just want everything to work natively without having to learn bash and a hundred other things to make shit work. 75ish % of computers run windows, 2% use Linux. So an issue that effects a insignificant amount of windows users would be like half of the Linux base. I love Linux don’t get me wrong, and use it on my garage computer and other fun projects but my main gaming PC and my wife’s PC and all the computers at work all run windows for a reason. I doubt Linux has a good software to run a plasma table or a CNC mill, some stuff u just can’t do on Linux without investing more time than is worth.
They’ve gotten away with it for 10 years now. I’m sure they’ll continue to get away with it.
This is what happens when corporations become so large, their product so ubiquitous, and have so many customers that they don’t need to worry about actual quality or service.
That’s what happens when big corporations decide that they can get away with having 30+% less staff, which most of the big companies are doing.
Plus lots of other efficiency killers, like RTO policies for teams that work 80% with people in other regions, etc.
Ah yes, the return of right-shifting
Microsoft is literally requiring its devs to use AI to write parts of Windows
…and it shows. God damn it shows, almost every week it seems, with yet another fuckup.
Enter your pin to unlock keepass. Don’t worry, I’ll make it pop up UNDER all the other windows when you want to unlock it. Also no, we still have a stock plain icon for windows hello in windows 11.
If that “AI” is getting feedback from fixes they make, then it makes sense. They are basically training it all the time. Except training it on their own devs seems to be pissing against the wind.
At work win 11 has already messed up twice. Once in an image and it black screened. As in it stopped working and no blue screen just black.
Its pretty bad. At least win 10 kept working.
How do those fuckups keep happening?
thier new thing is focousing on thier money-hemmorhaging AI.
“Thanks to Microsoft’s legendary approach to quality control, installing Windows patches these days is getting to be less like Russian Roulette and more like accidentally stepping on a rake left in the grass.”
Oooof!
Thanks to Microsoft’s legendary approach to quality control, installing Windows patches these days is getting to be less like Russian Roulette and more like accidentally stepping on a rake left in the grass.
I like the second metaphor:
The whole neighborhood is going to hear you swearing and shouting 🤬
“…which upon being stepped on, triggers a rifle aimed at your ass, covers you with sausages and emits a sound in the 20khz range to attract the neighbourhood dogs”
Linux!
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Dunno why you’re being downvoted, that there was a solid reference.
Pogbably because it looks like they’re spamming. someone linked the thing they’re referencing and I’m back to switch my vote because now I get it and its funny.
For people that don’t know the reference: here
Gives of joecartoon vibes.
Gives off weeblstuff vibes
we’re too old it seems
Linux has reset and recovery?
Does “reset and recovery” mean “wipe the hard disk and put a fresh licensed Windows install on”?
Not needing a license for a Linux distro means that’s straightforward without a special tool.
Since 1998, baby! Found my RedHat 3.0.3 install CD recently. It’s been such a long road, but it keeps getting better.
A CD with RedHat on it? Pretty fancy. My first RH installation came on about three boxes of floppy disks, took hours to unpack it all. And damn right, been all uphill since.
oh, I installed Debian Trixie yesterday ! having a little trouble with my Wacom tablet, which wasn’t a problem in Fedora a few years ago… But apart from that it’s 👌🏼
Just Debian things give it another 5 years and you will be good to go!
The cost of stability lol
Stable in debian means little to no change in functionality
Good, gives me plenty of time to determine if things are being enshittified.
Does Debian have HWE kernels like Ubuntu? They were called backports I think
Yes Debian has backports,
How does Microsoft regularly. Was up this badly?
Do all companies (Apple/linux) do it to but we don’t hear about it because of the smaller user base or is Microsoft literally this incompetent?
If they are, why can they fix the root issue?
The is a genuine question that I don’t have the answer to.
Apple’s base is big enough where if a problem like this happens, it’s a big deal. Apple has the benefit of controlling both hardware and software.
With Linux, being open source helps it out since so many people can test and chime in.
Exactly, plus you can decide if you want to be on a stable distro versus one where you get to test new features / get all the updates at the cost of stability.
Your distro can also decide what version to be on for each package. Slackware regularly rolls back a broken package until upstream fixes it.
That’s a good point. Beta users save a lot, I mean a lot, of headaches for stable users. I am not sure if Windows even does beta and alpha versions anymore.
They have the Windows Insider program, which is basically beta testing - and maybe sometimes alpha testing these days.
I should really keep up with Windows news even if I don’t use it.
Thank you for the info and thank you for posting.
MacOS only has ~10-15% market share (depending on which stats you read) so something breaking in MacOS has much less impact compared to Windows. Apple also control the hardware, so there’s fewer things that can go wrong.
Microsoft stopped trying a long time ago. The benefits of having a monopoly. Windows would have to cease functioning entirely for them to lose their position.
The is a genuine question that I don’t have the answer to.
I would say that because nobody can muster the consensus on any real policy. There’s plenty of legacy, with many different people and teams responsible, knowledge lost and so on.
And then this requires some sort of unified vision. Despite, eh, all the downsides, Apple can do that. MS can’t.
They’d honestly have to make a separate “neowin” subsystem with new GUI and everything, and make win32 and win64 and all the old tooling optional and parallel. Because their approach to backward compatibility means keeping everything around. They can’t fix the mess maintaining that.
Thanks I wondered if the backwards compatibility stuff was part of it.
Thanks for what? I’m not knowledgeable, it’s just poking with my finger into the sky
Your response
However often you think windows machines break on updates Apple ones break 100x more.
I’ve been on macOS since the Windows XP era and never in my life has the OS broken after a software update.
Come to think of it, same goes with iOS. I’ve been on iOS since the iPhone 4.
Peobably also comes down to not many softwares deciding to fuck with systwm files.
Recently had a borked Win7 -> Win10 install that was unable to keep the Win11 upgrade stable.
After an update and reboot it stopped working.Probable reason why: Some McAfee drive encryption driver embedded in the system files.
The drive wasnt encrypted. All files were externally readable by our backup software.
But removing the files from system32 borked the system and resulted in BSODs.Is it this invasive on the mac side?
This is complete bullshit Windows machines break WAY more often whenever MS releases their spotty updates. Especially when they decided to break up their quality control dept years ago. Every other week or so you get this shite with Windows/MS.
No windows is pretty reliable with its updates. Most of the issues in windows are from HP and dell shipping bad driver updates.
Right… thanks for the laugh… lol
Do you have an examples of this? I have not used Mac for quite some time.
Yeah I had an apple machine running filevault get locked out of its file system during an update and end up with no OS. Tried to revert back to before the update but the encryption keys werent working to unlock it. I had to install a new OS which isnt to bad on mac. Worst part was it wasnt even a major upgrade just a security patch.
War this a widespread issue? I know every computer can have one of issues, but Microsoft seems to have regular widespread issues and I was wandering about example where Apple also had widespread issues.
No
I suggest you take a look at the apple forums if you dont believe me.
My Apple-using friends seem split on this when I ask them whether Macs are stable these days. I’ve heard from several people that their reputation for stability is a hangover from the past, and updates in recent years have been somewhat unreliable. But it would be hard to get good comparative data given that the companies won’t be eager to share the numbers.
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I think, on a abstract level, the dynamic between a companies relationship to code is comparable to genetics in biology. In that sense, Vibe Coding is the last generation in a chain of inbreeding and Microsoft are the Hapsburgs. There will be a day where they succumb to their lack of quality control.
