• Hal-5700X@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    Can we just block the UK from the Internet. So they can have their own Internet, like China. That will solve a lot of problems.

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    5 hours ago

    Why would an American website pay fines because of the laws of a random country?

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    6 hours ago

    I hope this encourages more companies/sites to fight back against stupid laws. If most keep complying, it’ll only get worse for them in the future when they make even worse laws.

    Pull out all UK servers and ignore uk fines (assuming thats legal wherever u reside… idk how that works) or just pull out of uk.

    I hope a country like switzerland or something lets companies host servers there for europe without enforcing dumb laws from uk/european union.

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    7 hours ago

    I don’t really understand how this works. If I’m a company whose entire infrastructure is in the US (for example, I don’t know if 4chan is like that) how can I get in trouble with the UK? I don’t have a legal entity there, I’m not doing any business on their soil whatsoever, how can they enforce their laws against me?

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      3 hours ago

      They’re “doing business” there by serving ads to their citizens, that’s the legal basis for suing them. Whether that goes anywhere depends on the laws governing the business and any leverage UK has (say, going after advertising who do business with the company and in the UK).

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      6 hours ago

      I think it only works if the country you are in allows it to happen, as in they have an understanding with the UK (in this case) to follow through with legal stuff. If they were in russia (for example), the UK probably couldn’t enforce anything.

      Think it is down to the government of your country.

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    10 hours ago

    Calling 4chan the most hateful site on the Internet ignores the fact that xitter is a thing.

    The kind of hateful rhetoric and grooming are not unique to 4chan, they happen on Facebook, discord, and roblox. 4chan has just been a minimally filtered representation of underground online cultures for decades now meaning it’s still just as much a font of creativity as it is a cesspool of internet refuse.

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      4chan has been mostly dead as a place of creativity for years. /b/ is mostly creepshots, AI generated porn, and a guy who has been spamming a picture inviting you to eat Andy Sixx’s shit for like 5 years now. /pol/ is basically Stormfront lite.

      /lit/ and /mu/ were some of the best parts of 4chan but are shells of their former selves, some of the sfw boards sometimes have things of value but it’s time to move on.

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      Just because you’re comfortable with racial and homophobic slurs in most posts, doesn’t mean it’s not hateful.

      I detest Elon and xitter as much as anyone, but there is zero comparison. If anything, it just shows how far you’ve gone.

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    I absolutely don’t care what happens to 4chan, but UK starting to fine the internet for being available there and not complying with their bullshit is worrying.

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        Believe me, they’ve already been everywhere you’ve been. It’s not like once you post on 4chan you’re forbidden from making accounts on every other website.

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          It’s like league of Legends. Sure, they play other games. But it keeps a lot of their time busy elsewhere.

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            A game would keep people entertained or engaged in some way, some kind of focused shared activity. But to 4chan, coordinating with other anons about what YouTube comments to spam, what subreddit to brigade, that was the game. Organizing a personal army of trolls (yes that personal army) was the whole point of being there.

            In your analogy, a game of LoL takes place where all 10 players don’t play the game, they use global chat to decide on raiding Battlefield, DotA, or Overwatch. They then make a bunch of accounts, join some games, and rile people up with hate speech. Then they go back to LoL to share how angry they made other people.

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          Oh I know, but some place has to host their collective depravity. It might as well remain the 4chan site. I don’t think they can be gotten rid of or dispersed.

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    If there’s someone prepared to argue in court about why the UK’s Act is a terrible idea, holy crap is it NOT 4chan

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        “Your honor here is 30 terabytes of beastiality porn, we think what you want is somewhere in there, have fun going through it”

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          I am surprised they are asking for any legal action at all instead of just laughing at it and ignoring all messaging from Ofcom. Maybe responding with a few shitposts

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            Probably because the US has agreements with the UK about prosecution of folks for stuff like this, and the resulting handling of court ordered punishments like fines. We only ignore things like that if you’re a spouse of a cia agent or something.

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    11 hours ago

    OK so Trump is going to have to choose whether or not to side with fucking 4chan, you know, the site with regular pedophilia threads.

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    Man, either they strike a blow for online censorship or the UK laws do one decent thing and take out 4chan. Hilarious they’re trying to invoke trump tho like, when has that ever worked, he doesnt care about his bootlicking supporters…

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      13 hours ago

      It wouldn’t be the first time that he’s done something because Barron says all of his supporters want him to.

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    11 hours ago

    This is the best thing for everyone.

    If Trump intervenes: Trump is forced to either acknowledge 4chan and potentially even be positive of it

    If Trump intervenes: UK is forced to weaken the OSA

    If Trump backs down: He looks weak, UK gets EU a win against American corpos

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      UK gets EU nothing, UK has left EU.

      And the way their politics have gone to shit with mass surveillance and powerful lobbying from anti-LGBT groups, I prefer them not being represented in EU anymore.

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        It’s a win by non-Chinese western governments against American tech oligarchy’s desire to be above the law. Which makes it a win for the EU who wants to regulate them and a loss for American oligarchs.

        Yes UK politics are fucked. Rest of Europe catching up as well. But I don’t envision a scenario where this clash between various bastards is anything but a win for anyone who isn’t a bastard.